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Ann Friedman on Everything from Shine Theory to Kim Kardashian

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It’s time for another episode of your new favorite podcast, The Cooler!


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This week, we’re joined by Ann Friedman, whose name might sound familiar because she does approximately 1,001 things, like her New York Magazine column, her freelance work for publications like The New Yorker and The New York Times, her weekly newsletter, her pie charts and her hugely successful podcast Call Your Girlfriend.

On this episode, we asked Ann to preach the Shine Theory gospel and our hands involuntarily shot up in praise:

Shine Theory: Why Powerful Women Make the Greatest Friends

Kelly Rowland has done okay for herself since her days with Destiny’s Child. More than okay, really. She’s had a handful of solo hits, is embarking on a short tour this summer, and has just signed on to be a judge on The X Factor.

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We talked about how Hillary Clinton’s popularity is tied to whether she’s seeking a position of power at the time or not:

The Hillary Clinton Catch-22

To say that America has had a love-hate relationship with Hillary Rodham Clinton is a dramatic understatement. As stats god Nate Silver pointed out, the line graph of her approval ratings is the shape of a Six Flags roller coaster.

We unfairly put Ann on the spot with a quiz about all things Kardashian:


And we capped things off with a song of Ann’s choice: Rihanna’s “Work”:

Bonus treat: If you’re curious to hear our episode with Ann’s bestie, Aminatou Sow, this is for you!


P.S. #RihannaOnYacht

rihanna on yacht

Until next week!

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